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JFK Assassination Hearings - The Conclusion
(02:01:38) Opens with Chief Counsel Professor ROBERT BLAKEY summarizing the findings of an engineering consultant whose testimony was not heard because of time constraints, Blakey says this engineer has found that based on the trajectory of the bullet which hit JFK's head he finds it "highly unlikely" it could have been fired from the Texas School Book Depository (02:02:09) Funny audience shot (02:03:00) Blakey is recognized by Committee Chairman LOUIS STOKES, Blakey takes a couple minutes to thank the committee and his staff for their professional and politic-free work (02:05:00) Stokes thanks Blakey and the staff (02:06:23) Stokes recognizes Representative CHRISTOPHER DODD, Dodd has a question for Blakey about an unidentified bullet fragment found in JFK's limosine - Blakey says he cannot reference this fragment from memory (02:07:40) Stokes recognizes Representative ROBERT EDGAR, Edgar thanks Stokes for being chairman, Stokes in turn thanks all of the House Committee members (02:09:39) Stokes gives his closing statement in which he says among other things that he admits these investigations into JFK and Dr. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR's assassination did not tie up all the loose ends, he also says that in the future these sorts of cases must be better and further investigated when they actually happen, Stokes also gives dates of when the committee's conclusion reports about the two assassinations will be released and published (02:15:57) Stokes adjourns committee (02:16:10) Hearings host PAUL DUKE voices over shot of hearings room summary of the day's testimony (02:17:10) Shot changes to broadcast booth, Duke discusses with panel member JEREMIAH O'LEARY of the Washington Star the day's testimony and the conclusion of the investigation (02:20:18) Chairman Stokes appears and is interviewed by Duke, Duke tries in vain to get Stokes to say whether or not he feels there was a conspiracy in the JFK and King assassinations, Duke also discusses what will happen now with the JFK investigation, especially since today's new evidence has come to light, strongly implicating a second shooter (02:27:00) Duke closes out the hearings coverage (02:27:34) WETA logo (02:27:43) PBS funding credit (02:27:51) PBS logo
JFK Assassination Hearings - John & Nellie Connally (Part II)
(03:08:00) Cornwell introduces exhibit of blow up of cover page of the Dallas Morning News from September 26, 1963 which has the first article mentioning JFK's future visit, describing it as a political one, Cornwells asks if John was aware of this article or similar publicity and if he knew who made it public - John says he was familiar with articles but did not know who made JFK's trip public (03:10:15) Cornwell asks who was involved in planning the trip - John says every one in his office and goes on to list names - Nellie responds "she was shining up that mansion (governor's) like you never saw" in preparation - John goes on to describe the intricacies of planning JFK's visit, how they dealt with local politics of conflicting city interests and how they agreed on having Austin be the center of the visit and what was to go on there, also John explains that he wanted JACKIE KENNEDY to come (03:15:04) Cornwell asks what John's initial proposed plan to JFK was regarding the visit - John gives a futher explanation of the planning of the visit, how they tried to set up an agenda that would have JFK appearing before various non-political oroganizations with the intent of increasing his fan base, John also describes numerous changes that would take place in the plans as different things came up which would place JFK in a different place at a different time
JFK Assassination Hearings - Robert Groden
Two more photographs of the motorcade are introduced - they are explained by Groden to be from behind the rear of JFK's limousine looking forward in their path toward the grassy knoll, a hill suspected of being the spot from which the shot was fired that exploded and knocked back JFK's head - Groden describes these photos as both revealing a figure on the knoll who witnesses later said they saw runaway, Groden says he is positioned just as he would need to be to have shot JFK's head and caused it to move back in the angle it did (from the shot of the photographs it is very hard to see anything where Groden claims there is a person)
JFK campaign spots
JFK campaign spots/political advertising for the presidential campaign of John F. Kennedy. Jackie Kennedy does a campaign ad entirely in Spanish.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part IV)
(13:43:00) Preyers asks what happened to the metal fragments found in JFK's skull - Baden answers some were removed and eventually passed on to the National Archives (13:43:30) Preyer asks Baden about discrepancies between the Ramsey-Clark panel report and the Rockefeller report (both previous re-examinations of the JFK case) with the current panel's findings, in particular he asks about the Rockefeller report claim that a piece of metal was found in JFK's neck - Baden discounts this using JFK chest X-ray exhibits and giving a lenghthy explanation of their misguided interpretation of the X-rays to come to that conclusion (13:48:05) Preyer asks if bullet 399 could have nicked JFK's vertebrae and left such a neat exit wound in JFK's throat - Baden answers yes and explains (13:49:42) Preyer asks about a discrepancy between the Ramsey-Clark report and the current committee's findings with where they identified the location of the bullet's exit wound out JFK's neck - Baden discounts this discrepancy with the introduction of exhibits of images of the neck injuries as a mistake by the Ramsey-Clark forensic pathologists in transferring data from evidence to a report (13:51:45) Preyer asks if the panel conducted any experiments, particularly to find out if bullet 399, "the pristene bullet", was possible - Baden gives a long explanation as to why the panel agreed, with the exception of Dr. CYRIL H. WECHT, not to conduct any experiments, the crux of which is what Baden claims as the impossibility of recreating a one time event that has limitless factors in determining its unique outcome, bullets' paths he says are never exactly the same and can be changed by the slightest of influences
JFK Assassination Hearings - Robert Groden
"CONTAINS ZAPRUDER FILM CONTENT, REQUIRES PERMISSION* Lights on, Goldsmith introduces exhibits of five frames of Zapruder film. Groden identifies each exhibit and then describes them one by one in relation to the Zapruder film pointing out that it seems that Connally reacts a little later than JFK and actually appears to be turning to look back in reaction to the first shot. Goldsmith asks what the Zapruder film reveals about the direction of the shots - Groden says that JFK's head movement back suggests the possibility that a shot came from in front of the car. At Goldsmith's request Groden tells the committee what to look for as far as JFK's head movement is concerned upon a second viewing of the film.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part II)
New exhibit added, it is an illustration of JFK's neck and shoulders from the front, the throat is lacerated - Baden identifies and describes the illustration (10:25:00) A blow up photograph of the neck injury is added - Baden describes and indentifies the photograph and tells the committee that the panel concluded that it was the result of both a tracheotomy attempt by the doctors at Parkland hospital and a bullet exit wound - they confirmed their findings with the Parkland doctors (10:25:35) Returning to JFK's clothing Baden points out the bullet hole in the neck corresponds to a rip in the shirt and tie that would have matched the location at the time of the assassination on JFK's body (10:28:20) Klein introduces the autopsy reports as exhibits - Baden indentifies and describes the reports and their preperation, which includes a supplimentry report written two weeks after the assassination analysing the brain after it had fixed in formaldihyde (10:29:39) Baden tells the committee the report's conclusion about the gun shot wound to the back and neck - it is the same as that concluded by the panel - Klein asks if this conclusion was unanimous for the panel to which Baden responds yes (10:31:40) Exhibit of profile images of JFK's head introduced, one head is static, the other is depicted as moving in stages - Baden identifies the pictures and describes them as a depiction of the bullet's track through JFK's neck and the different angle possibilities for it's flight course, depending on JFK's head position (10:32:30)
Ike and JFK meet
Master 1 - Tape 1 Ike and JFK meet. President Dwight D. Eisenhower meets President-elect John F. Kennedy. Looks like changing of the guard - transition of govt. from one to the other. A great piece of newsreel photojournalism; first the still photographers are all lined up, taking snapshots. Then we see Ike. A white car with fins comes up, print journalists take notes, and JFK walks up the steps to meet with Ike, his hat in his hand. Ike takes off his hat. They meet on stairs (of white house?)and shake hands. Smiling. They pose for the cameras. CUs on some of the cameramen (and their Bell & Howell Cameras). Ike and JFK sit together at a desk. CUs of both men, looking serious. Transition. Some more photo opportunities. More shaking of hands, smiling. JFK, looking like a movie star, leaves the White House with body guards around him.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part II)
Exhibit introduced - color profile of JFK with detail of internal musculature and path of bullet through neck - Baden identifies is at a drawing done for the Warren Commision and describes it as an inaccurate interpretation of the bullet's path through the neck - the entrance point is placed two inches higher than the current panel's conclusion as to where it was located (10:35:00) Exhibit introduced - illustration of the back of JFK's head with a ruler being held up to it and the hair parted - Baden indentifies it as a replica of an autopsy photograph and explains the elements of it which include a bullet hole, skull fragments, and a piece of dried tissue at the neck hair line (10:36:05) Two more exhibits added Baden identifies and describes them, based on the panel's conclusions, as blow ups of back of the head image of JFK, they depict the piece of dried brain tissue at the neck hair line and the bullet hole (they are actually photographs) (10:38:00) More exhibits introduced - 3 skull X-rays of JFK - Baden identifies one as original X-ray from the autopsy of JFK's profile another as the same X-ray processed by a computer and improved in contrast, it is the most detailed and clear image of the three, with it Baden explains the panel's findings: that the skull was heavily fractured by a bullet that entered and passed through it toward the top of the head, they also found fragments of materiall which they concluded to be bullet debris - Baden then puts this in striking comparison to the third X-ray which is from earlier in JFK's life and depicts the same perspective of the skull but the skull is in perfect shape (10:40:50)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Cyril H. Wecht
Shot turns to host and panel, JEREMIAH O'LEARY a Washington Star reporter and DAVID LIFTON a researcher and writer on JFK, they recap the day's testimony and comment upon it (I 15:59:03 - O 16:24:00) Committee reconvenes and chair recognizes Purdy to question Wecht (16:24:00) Purdy asks why don't men line up in vertical trajectory - Wecht answers bullet on slight incline coming though JFK but was originally fired from the sixth floor of a book depository obviously at a downward angle, then upon leaving JFK the bullet takes a downward angle through Connally (16:24:15) Wecht complains that the forensic pathology department is hung up on how we can't know how men were positioned when the car was behind the sign, this is used to explain how the bullet's path possible even though the horizontal trajectories also do not match up (16:27:00) X-ray of Connally's wrist is introduced by Purdy, Purdy asks if bullet could have done the damage shown in X-ray - Wecht explains (16:28:10)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Robert Groden
Lights back on, Goldsmith asks about the Warren Commission's presentation of JFK's head movement from the Zapruder film - Groden explains that in their report they published the frames of the film out of sequence, obscuring the backward movement of the head, making it Groden explains, look as though JFK flew forward with the shot. Goldsmith asks if there is any photographic evidence to support the Warren Commission's finding of LEE HARVEY OSWALD having fired from the school book depository - Groden answers there were many photographs taken of the book depository.
JFK Assassination HSCA Hearings
House Select Committee on Assassination Chairman U.S. Representative Louis Stokes (D-OH) seated with U.S. Representatives Samuel L. Devine (R-OH) and L. Richardson Preyer (D-NC). Chairman Stokes opens hearings on the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Stokes makes opening statement: the Committee will hold a one-day hearing on the assassination of President Kennedy, focusing on acoustical analysis of audio tape recorded on the day of the JFK assassination; the Committee is prepared to make its final conclusions and recommendations on all the questions on both the assassinations of JFK and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., which the Committee will do after the public session has adjourned; the Committee thought it best to hold a public hearing before the final Committee vote. Stokes recognizes Committee Chief Consul G. Robert Blakey.
JFK Assassination HSCA Hearings
House Select Committee on Assassinations hearing on the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Committee members U.S. Representatives L. Richardson Preyer (D-NC) and Samuel L. Devine (R-OH) with Chairman Louis Stokes (D-OH). Committee Chief Counsel G. Robert Blakey introduces JFK exhibit F-647, statement from Secret Service Agent Paul E. Landis, who was in the follow-up car behind the presidential limousine; Landis can be seen in JFK exhibit F-155. Landis indicated the first shot sounded like the report of a high-powered rifle from behind him, over his right shoulder; Landis said he was not certain from which direction the second shot came, but his “reaction” at the time was that the shot came from somewhere on the front right-handed side of the road.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part II)
New exhibits introduced - 2 more X-rays, front views (?) of JFK's skull which Baden explains concur with the bullet wound to the head, revealing the bullet's entrance point, a fragment of it within the head and the extensive damage to the skull it imparted (10:46:00) Klein introduces another exhibit - a profile drawing of JFK which makes him semi-transparent so that you can see his skull and a bullet whole in its top front - Baden explains that this drawing depicts the panel's conclusion as to the location of the bullet's point of exit (10:47:30) Another exhibit is introduced - Baden explains it as a photographic blow up of what the panel concluded as the bullet's point of exit out of the front of JFK's skull, he explains how they reached this conclusion (10:48:50) Exhiibt of X-ray is introduced - Baden explains it is the X-ray of fragments of JFK's skull recovered from his car, from it and the autopsy report the panel confirmed that it supports the location of the bullet's exit point as one fragment too was damaged by the bullet and has as a result metal fragments in it (10:51:20)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden and Captain James J. Humes M.D.
Opens with councilman MCKINNEY asking witness what effect it would have if the bullet hit JFK's spinal column - Dr. MICHAEL BADEN, Forensic Pathologist and representative of panel of pathologists assigned investigation by House Committee, answers that fragments of bullets found in the initial investigation satisfied them as being responsible for all the damage to the head of JFK (14:28:42) McKinney wants to know how much of bullet was found - Baden answers "a great portion of it" - McKinney asks about the other bullet - Baden answers that it was found completely intact because it traveled through soft tissue (14:29:21) Baden explains that it is bone that would deform a bullet but whether or not the bullet hit any bone within JFK cannot be determined because a proper dissection of the body was not done, if it hit the spinal cord it could have affected JFK's movement (14:30:30) Baden mentions the metal fragment found around JFK's neck but discounts this as a fragment of bullet come off as the result of contact with bone in the president's back, however Baden says cavity created by bullet through back could have had repercussions for the spinal cord (14:31:30) McKinney asks what the difference was between the bullet that killed Martine Luther King and was badly deformed and that which passed through JFK - Baden answers that the one hitting King hit a lot of bone vs. the one in JFK which might have at most grazed JFK's spinal cord, also King's bullet was soft nosed vs. the full metal jacket of JFK's (14:32:44)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Vincent P. Guinn (Conclusion)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Vincent P. Guinn (Conclusion)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part II)
Baden identifies and describes the drawing and verifies its accuracy (10:09:15) New exhibit is added, it is a huge blow up of the bullet hole in JFK's back - Baden identifies and desribes it (10:10:10) Baden defines the whole as an entrance gun shot wound and explains how the panel came to that conclusion (10:11:45) Two new exhibits added - Representative CHRISTOPHER DODD interrupts to tell the court that some of the committee members will be coming and going as there is a quorum call on the House floor (10:12:30) Using the diagrams introduced which depict stages of a bullet penetrating a surface at two different angles - Baden explains what an abrasion collar is and how its shape and symetry reflect the bullet's angle of entrance into the skin - JFK's abrasian collar indicates the bullet was traveling from right to left (10:13:05) JFK's clothing is introduced as an exhibit, it comes on a headless, armless torso mannequin, it is a suit jacket and shirt which we learn were ripped apart by doctors so they could apply emergency treatement, there is also a tie - Baden identifies and describes the clothing and then reveals the small hole in the back of the jacket which he tells the committee matches the location of the hole in JFK's back (10:16:40) Two more exhibits are taken to the exhibit easel, they are blown up X-rays of JFK's chest and neck - Baden identifies and describes the X-rays, he then tells the committee that the panel concluded from the X-ray that a bullet did pass through the neck and back after the identification of a fractured vertebrae in the president's neck - Baden explains that this finding was confirmed by several radiology specialists who he lists (10:18:40)
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part IV)
(14:14:40) Delegate WALTER FAUNTROY is recognized to question the witness, he asks Baden to explain how they can tell the bullet entered the back of JFK's head - Baden explains how from bevelling in the hole in the back of JFK's skull the panel could determine the direction from which the shot was fired, he uses an illustrations to explain this (the sound goes fuzzy while he gives the explanation which Baden makes a joke about, suggesting this is caused by Dr. Wecht) (14:19:54) Reprensentative CHRISTOPHER DODD is recognized to question the witness, who asks for a more detailed explanation of how the panel can determine that the bullet hole in the neck is one of exit - Baden gives it (14:23:20) Baden gives a detailed explanation upon Dodd's request of how JFK's clothing supports the neck hole being a wound of exit (14:25:24) Dodd asks if Baden can say there were no shots fired from "the grassy knole" - Baden responds yes, the evidence does not support this, he then goes on to add that the Zapruder film is the first time someone being shot in the head has been captured for analysis by forensic pathologists and the effects it shows them are hard for them to judge as this is their first exposure to such evidence (14:28:00) Chair recognizes Representative STUART MCKINNEY to question the witness, he asks Baden about the bullet evidence that was recovered from the car and if the bullet that went through JFK's back had hit his spine if could still have gone on to hit Connally - Baden answers that the fragments that were found account for the bullet that hit JFK's head
JFK Assassination Hearings - John & Nellie Connally (Part II)
(03:28:45) Cornwell asks Nellie where she had come from before meeting JFK at the San Antonio airport - Nellie responds she came from Austin and that right before leaving she had been working on getting the carpet cleaned at the governor's mansion (03:30:10) Cornwell asks Nellie to describe the meeting of JFK and Jackie at the airport - Nellies says she was excited , Nellie says she "felt like the mother of everybody", she wanted all of her state to welcome them, she goes on to describe the plane's landing and her's and the crowd's reaction at that moment (03:31:35) John and Nellie describe the reception and activies in San Antonio which all went very well (03:33:30) Cornwell asks if JFK gave his sentiments during the first leg of the trip as to how it was going - Nellie says he said it was going well (03:34:51) John describes Jackie's reaction to the trip, he says at the beginning she seemed stiff and reserved but by the second day she seemed to enjoy herself much more
JFK Assassination Hearings - Day One Introduction & John & Nellie Connally
(01:37:40) Fuzzy image of PBS funding credit to the Ford Foundation (01:38:14) Shot opens from back of gallery of hearing room where people are congregating, hearings host SANFORD UNGAR voices over an introduction to the first day of the hearings which will be the testimony of former Texas Governor John Connally and his wife Nellie, the shot changes to him during this introduction, he then introduces his panel JEREMIAH O'LEARY of the Washington Star and PAUL HOCH of the Assassination Information Bureau, they discuss the conspiracy aspect of the investigation and if it will be laid to rest by these hearings (01:45:00) Shot returns to the hearings room where Ungar identifies the Chairman of the Committee Representative LOUIS STOKES and fellow member Representative RICHARDSON PREYER and panel discusses fact that certain government documents regarding the assassination were not made available for the committee to review (01:46:26) Shot returns to the panel which discusses the possibilty that the hearings could be cut off abruptly because of lack of funds which is to be later voted on (01:47:50) Shot retuns to hearing room and committee where Stokes kicks things off with an introduction of the committee's objectives in holding the investigation: to identify JFK's assassin, to determine the performance of Federal agencies in their investigation and protection of the president, to determine if there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK - Stokes then talks about how the committee will approach the hearings with an objective stance suspending judgement until examining all the evidence and not coming to a decision until December of '78 when they will convene to write a report as to their conclusions (01:50:58) Stokes gives the differences between these hearings and criminal procedings: there is no defendent, there is no prosecuter, there is no specific burden of proof, there is no pending indictment - Stokes goes on to say that the committee is there to evaluate evidence and leaves its ultimate decision to the public hearings in December (01:53:50) Stokes says the hearings are held to form a historic record (01:54:30) Stokes sets up this week of the hearings: to examine the facts and circumstances surrounding JFK's trip to Dallas and scientific analysis of the facts of JFK's death (01:55:00) Stokes recognizes Preyer who explains the hearing will revolve around three themes: the involvement in the death of JFK of LEE HARVY OSWALD, an evaluation of federal agencies who were involved in events surrounding the assassination and the investigation that followed, and a review of conspiracy theories (01:57:50) Preyer explains what has gone on in the House investigation up to this date, namely in their securing and evaluation of evidence, he goes on to give statistics on the number of locations around the world visited in pursuit of information, the number of people interviewed, the number of agency files perused, the number of consultants consulted, all of the numbers are extremely large (02:01:04) Stokes recognizes Minority Leader of the Committee Representative Samuel L. Devine who says that even after the hearings are over the work will continue for the committee (02:02:35) Stokes explains that he and other members of the committee will have to leave at 10 am today to consult with the House about continuing the funding of the committee, Stokes then recognizes Professor G. ROBERT BLAKEY, Chief Counsel, who gives a flattering, lengthy history of JFK's presidency and the major issues he contended with: the Soviet Union, Cuba and the Cold War, Civil Rights, the mob and JIMMY HOFFA (02:23:00) Blakey gets into JFK's political traveling logisitics, as far as security - Blakey goes on to discuss why JFK would go to Dallas and why have a motorcade there (02:25:40) Blakey introduces former Texas Governor JOHN CONNALLY and his wife NELLIE (02:26:40) Chairman Stokes calls the Connallys and swears them in (02:27:15) Stokes gives the historical context of the Connallys' relationship to the JFK assassination - why they were called to testify (02:29:00) Stokes turns chair position over to Representative CHRISTOPHER DODD as he and other committee members have to leave (02:29:38) Dodd turns the floor over to Deputy Chief Counsel GARY T. CORNWELL to question the witnesses, he asks John about his role in JFK's trip to Dallas - John gives a lengthy explanation of the beginning of his contact with JFK and Vice President LYNDON JOHNSON and how they had originally wanted to come to Texas in '62 when he was in the midst of running for governor (02:33:20) Cornwell asks why, if John was not initially Govenor, JFK would contact him about visiting Texas - John gives a long account of their long friendly relationship up to this time (02:35:00) Cornwell asks why JFK wanted to go to Texas - John answers to raise money and to increase his political fortunes in Texas, he then goes on to discount the press speculations as to why he came and further explains why JFK would come to increase his popularity in Texas, he also adds that he himself did not want JFK to come at that time and explains why (02:38:31) Cornwell asks why JFK didn't just come on his own, without the support of John, if John had been so persistent in delaying the trip - John answers that it was his constituency that JFK was interested in reaching, the rest of his response is cut off by the end of the tape
JFK Assassination Hearings - Larry Sturdivan (Conclusion)
Sawyer confirms that had JFK's spinal cord been severed by the first bullet that he would not have been able to move his arms to reach for his neck upon feeling the injury.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Robert Groden
Goldsmith asks aside from the positioning of the men what else does the Zapruder film reveal that is inconsistent with the single bullet theory - Groden answers that the men's reactions are not synced, JFK grabs his neck a good time before Connally reacts. Goldsmith asks how relative to the Zapruder film the Warren Commission came to the conclusion it did - Groden answers that the time elapsed between when JFK was possibly shot (on the film it is obscured by a road sign) in the neck and when Connally shows a response is too short a time for another shot to have been fired by the same gun. Goldsmith introduces the Zapruder film that is about to be shown to the committee - Groden explains that the first take will be the original film and the second will be one that has been slowed down and subjected to rotoscoping which he explains is a process by which the image has been centered on JFK and Connally and steadied. Groden explains what to look for in the film, particularly the reactions of both men and when they occur. Goldsmith gives the name of the copyright holder for the film and warns sensitive viewers to turn away.
JFK Assassination Hearings - Dr. Michael Baden (Part II)
Klein asks in what ways was the autopsy report consistant and at odds with the findings of the panel - Baden answers that it was consistant in its identification of the direction of the bullet's path through the head of JFK but that it was odds in it's location of the bullet's point of entry as 4 inches lower than the panel (10:53:00) Klein asks if the panel unanimously concluded that the bullet entered high on the back side of JFK's head and exited high on the right side - Baden answers yes (10:54:25) Two exhibits introduced - Drawings of a 3/4 back view of JFK with an out line of his head within which the skull is detailed, both depict the bullets path through the skull as an arrow and one of the images shows the fragments of the skull in relation to the large hole left behind, the other shows the path of the bullet through the neck as well - Baden explains the drawings and says that the president's head position within them was determined by viewing the Zapruder film (10:55:00)
JFK Assassination HSCA Hearings
House Select Committee on Assassinations hearing on the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Committee Chief Counsel G. Robert Blakey discussing witness Virgie Baker. Blakey introduces JFK exhibit F-651, Baker’s statement to the FBI. Baker was standing across the street from the Texas School Book Depository when she heard the shots. Baker thought the shots came from the direction of the triple overpass, and when looking that way Baker presumed she saw a bullet bounce off the pavement. Blakey introduces JFK exhibit F-652, Virgie Baker’s testimony before the Warren Commission. Warren Commission Counsel Wesley Liebler asked Baker where the noise she heard came from; Baker thought the noise she heard was close to the underpass. Liebler questioned Baker in respect to the bullets she saw. Baker saw the impact on the curbside of the street, opposite from the side of the Texas School Book Depository, adding that the impact was approximately in the middle of the lane. Baker thought the impact was behind JFK's car. Blakey discusses content in the Warren Commission’s record regarding “suspicious” activity around the Grassy Knoll: footprints by the fence; an individual who identified himself as Secret Service, when no agent was supposed to be in that area; and activity that could be called “flight,” but the fact remains that no one gives credible testimony that they saw anyone with a rifle around the fence at the time of the assassination. In the absence of credible testimony or hard evidence to support the theory of the “Knoll shot,” the Warren Commission concluded the shots came from only one place, the Texas School Book Depository where Lee Harvey Oswald worked.